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Should "replaced" and "replaced by" fields be used for previous or next tenants? TheOptopolis uses replaced fields mostly for next tenants but rarely previous.
* "replaced" and "replaced_by" are intended for locations that have moved. If a store moved to another location and something else opened in its former place, you would put the store's new location under "replaced_by" and the thing that opened in the old location as "next". I recognize that this might be confusing, but I couldn't really think of a better way to do it. -[[User:Reschultzed|Reschultzed]] ([[User talk:Reschultzed|talk]]) 01:40, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
Let me say it, if Target T-1234 was replaced by Target T-2345, and Kmart 3333 was replaced by Kmart 9009 (just examples), Target T-1234 should be in "Replaced" for Target T-2345's page and that location should be in the "replaced by" page of the old location. Same logic applies to Kmart 3333 example location (All of these are real store numbers, just examples) --[[Special:Contributions/120.28.227.65|120.28.227.65]] 02:51, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
* I'll be frank, the main reason those sections originally confused me is because in the visual edit screen for the infobox, the previous and next tenants only say "previous" and "next;" the word "tenant" is omitted for me. When I first saw those sections, I had no idea what the heck "previous" and "next" meant. After I realized what they meant a bunch of pages down the line, I guess you could say I had an "a-ha" moment and an "oops" moment. I've been slowly correcting this mistake as I am able to do so. --[[User:TheOptopolis|TheOptopolis]] ([[User talk:TheOptopolis|talk]]) 03:48, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
* Alright, JAX and Sutherlands pages should both be corrected to use the correct configuration with replaced/replaced by/previous tenant/next tenant.
== Spam page ==
https://www.bluepageswiki.org/wiki/%D0%92%D1%81%D1%91_%D0%9E_%D0%9E%D0%B3%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%87%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB%D1%8F%D1%85_%D0%9F%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%BF%D1%80%D1%8F%D0%B6%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%9E%D0%BF%D0%BD:_%D0%A3%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%BE_%D0%9D%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%87%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5_%D0%98_%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D1%86%D0%B8%D0%BF_%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%8B Please delete, it's spam --[[Special:Contributions/120.28.230.107|120.28.230.107]] 21:26, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
== Italics removed from pages ==
Many Texas pages had italics (and also other state pages) had italics removed, is it because italics break date fields? --[[Special:Contributions/120.28.230.107|120.28.230.107]] 10:34, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
== Delete pages ==
There are some pages listed in [[:Category:Candidates for deletion]] that need to be deleted. Could you take a look? Thanks. [[User:Collei|Collei]] ([[User talk:Collei|talk]]) 02:07, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
== Can somebody see if a place "JAX 16" even exists in Scottsdale, New York, the page that was added by User 120.28.230.107? ==
Recently, someone who appears to not know the proper way to create pages created a page called "[[JAX 16]]" that has nothing to do with JAX Mercantile Co. If that store exists, fine, but I don't know if it exists. (If it does exist, it has nothing to do with JAX Mercantile Co, a business which never had a New York store--the farthest-east-store is in Iowa.) Can someone more educated about the area of New York see if "JAX 16" even exists? I would but I barely know anything about New York (never visited, only seen videos around NYC), and I definitely don't see any results in a quick Google search.--[[User:TheOptopolis|TheOptopolis]] ([[User talk:TheOptopolis|talk]]) 07:41, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
Edit, looks like somebody else already beat me to asking this question and apparently there isn't even a Scottsdale in New York according to that user. "JAX 16" may need deleted.--[[User:TheOptopolis|TheOptopolis]] ([[User talk:TheOptopolis|talk]]) 07:43, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
== Reply ==
A while ago, the same user changed a Kmart page to change it from "Scottsdale, AZ" to "Scottsdale, NY" but reverted it hours later.
: Oh wow. I guess at least here, they didn't change an existing page. Less harmful. That still would get annoying.--[[User:TheOptopolis|TheOptopolis]] ([[User talk:TheOptopolis|talk]]) 07:52, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
: PS thanks 120.28.250.85 for fixing my typo on the Albertson's infobox. That's my sign to get some rest, haha--[[User:TheOptopolis|TheOptopolis]] ([[User talk:TheOptopolis|talk]]) 08:01, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
== Kmart 7424, again ==
That store was closed in 1991 alongside Kmart 4413, the actual opening date for 3891 was July 29, 1991 with a grand opening ceremony on August 1
== Bluepages:Spreadsheet problems ==
I have created a page called [[Bluepages:Spreadsheet problems]] for people who've been contested with negative feedback on the spreadsheets.
== DELETE User:Hacker101 ==
That's vandalism!
== 120.28.229.12 is messing with pages, changing locations of stores and stuff! ==
120.28.229.12 tried to put Kmart 7424 in Cheyenne New York! There is no Cheyenne in New York! According to Blue pages, the same IP address also posted the last topic on this talk page... if it is indeed the same person, that's mighty ironic.--[[User:TheOptopolis|TheOptopolis]] ([[User talk:TheOptopolis|talk]]) 05:12, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
I don't know if this user is intentionally doing this or not (some recent edits have been otherwise legit), but this isn't the first instance of changing the location. I'll add that this IP was shown to have also changed the [[https://www.bluepageswiki.org/wiki/Family_Dollar_5901?diff=1053814&oldid=1053766|Cheyenne, Wyoming Family Dollar]] to be shown as in Ohio, even though there is no Cheyenne in Ohio.--[[User:TheOptopolis|TheOptopolis]] ([[User talk:TheOptopolis|talk]]) 05:26, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
Okay, you know what? I'm convinced it is vandalism at this point. In spite of my repetitive attempts to explain to this person that there are only TWO Cheyennes in the United States of America, they keep changing Kmart 7424 and Family Dollar 5901 to be in some other city that does not exist. I don't know what there is that can be done about this, but I'm getting tired of going in and reverting changes over and over and over again. Not sure what input you can provide on this matter if there even is input to be had.--[[User:TheOptopolis|TheOptopolis]] ([[User talk:TheOptopolis|talk]]) 22:02, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
This time, they also changed Kmart 4413 to Ohio as well even though we all know that's incorrect. I've reverted that page back to the last edit as well.--[[User:TheOptopolis|TheOptopolis]] ([[User talk:TheOptopolis|talk]]) 22:13, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
Sorry for the redundant changes to this page. But I got more info. This person has made similar nonsense changes to loads of places in the city of Cheyenne, Wyoming including O'Reilly Auto Parts 2726, Dollar Tree 2697, McDonald's 226, Wendy's 3504, Taco Bell 23074, Target T-1377, Target T-14, Safeway 2469, and possibly others that I've missed. This user is obviously now messing with places outside of Cheyenne, Wyoming.--[[User:TheOptopolis|TheOptopolis]] ([[User talk:TheOptopolis|talk]]) 22:24, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
: Alright, blocked them. --[[User:Reschultzed|Reschultzed]] ([[User talk:Reschultzed|talk]]) 22:32, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
== Not all Taco John's pages show in Taco John's Table ==
It looks like someone tried to set up a infobox for Taco John's in the past, but the Taco John's I just added ([[Taco John's 1005]]) copying+pasting the template from the existing Taco John's location is not appearing in the [[Bluepages:Tables/Taco Johns|Taco Johns table]]. Although a small detail and although it may not be a big deal, I'll note that an apostrophe is missing on the [[Bluepages:Tables/Taco Johns|tables page]]. I have zero idea what would cause Taco John's 1005 to not appear in the Taco Johns table. Haven't had this issue before (i.e. Sears pages I've added in the past appear just fine in the table of Sears locations).--[[User:TheOptopolis|TheOptopolis]] ([[User talk:TheOptopolis|talk]]) 06:35, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
: I refreshed the page and it came up on the table, so I guess it just took a little bit of time to process. You can force it to hurry up by purging the page cache. --[[User:Reschultzed|Reschultzed]] ([[User talk:Reschultzed|talk]]) 14:13, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
: I did not know that was a thing you could do before. I just had to use the purge thing on [[Hobby Lobby 43]] to get a newly created page with a link to appear as blue instead of red, and it did work! HOWEVER - I noticed the [[Bluepages:Tables/Hobby_Lobby|Hobby Lobby table]] is having the same thing happen that the Taco Johns table was, but when I use the purge button, it says it failed every time, and I've tried doing it there a handful of times yesterday and today to no avail. In this case, there are many stores that should be appearing there but aren't, even though some were created years ago now.--[[User:TheOptopolis|TheOptopolis]] ([[User talk:TheOptopolis|talk]]) 20:27, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
:: I'm told there was some server trouble earlier today. It should be working now. --[[User:Reschultzed|Reschultzed]] ([[User talk:Reschultzed|talk]]) 22:26, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
::: That might have been part of the problem; now the button worked for me. More of them are coming up now (including infoboxes I've just added), but some still are not loading including stores 2-7 for Hobby Lobby... It looks like the infobox on [[Hobby Lobby 1]] (that is appearing in the table) is typed the same besides the location/address/etc. for [[Hobby Lobby 2]] and [[Hobby Lobby 3]], so I'm pretty sure it's not a typo in the code causing the few to not appear.--[[User:TheOptopolis|TheOptopolis]] ([[User talk:TheOptopolis|talk]]) 22:49, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
:::: I think that's a problem with the table not being able to load more than 500 locations at a time. All those locations show up on the state-level table at [[Category:Hobby Lobby stores in Oklahoma]]. I really wish the system were capable of handling more than that, but I haven't found a way to make that work. --[[User:Reschultzed|Reschultzed]] ([[User talk:Reschultzed|talk]]) 23:19, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
::::: Ah, okay. I was wondering where the limit was TBH.--[[User:TheOptopolis|TheOptopolis]] ([[User talk:TheOptopolis|talk]]) 00:40, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
== How to handle stores and businesses that relocate but keep the same store number for the new and old location? ==
For the purpose of Bluepages, how would you recommend handling stores that kept the store number, but relocated? Cheyenne's Hobby Lobby, [[Hobby Lobby 164]] is one such example. The [http://web.archive.org/web/20060602052758/http://www.hobbylobby.com/site3/store/locations.cfm web.archive of the locations list from 2006] shows that the Cheyenne store was still #164 at its old location. Should there maybe be the base page (Hobby Lobby 164) then individual pages for each of the locations belonging to that number, or do you have some other approach to handling such a situation?--[[User:TheOptopolis|TheOptopolis]] ([[User talk:TheOptopolis|talk]]) 02:43, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
Hmm... Found the same is true of [[Natural Grocers 38]]. Kept the same number in the relocation.--[[User:TheOptopolis|TheOptopolis]] ([[User talk:TheOptopolis|talk]]) 03:27, 28 March 2024 (UTC) OR--Edit, maybe not. I missed a detail that I now see. But that small of a number... Can't discount the possibility.--[[User:TheOptopolis|TheOptopolis]] ([[User talk:TheOptopolis|talk]]) 03:28, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
: My strategy has typically been to keep them together on one page with multiple infoboxes. Here's an example: [[Hastings 9604]] --[[User:Reschultzed|Reschultzed]] ([[User talk:Reschultzed|talk]]) 04:16, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
== Another fake page ==
Looks like someone created another Kmart that never existed. [[Kmart 9522]]. Definitely did not have that store in Cheyenne, WY.--[[User:TheOptopolis|TheOptopolis]] ([[User talk:TheOptopolis|talk]]) 21:37, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
: Deleted and blocked creator, thanks. --[[User:Reschultzed|Reschultzed]] ([[User talk:Reschultzed|talk]]) 23:31, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
== Kmart 7424 closure date definitive to be in mid-1991 ==
I found photos dated the end of August 1991 that show both the old Cheyenne Kmarts ([[Kmart 7424|7424]] and [[Kmart 4413|4413]]) had closed by that point; signage was no longer on either of the old buildings and parking lots were empty in these photos. The Pershing Kmart (4413) even had construction work already taking place in the parking lot.
It was brought to my attention that the date in the spreadsheet still displays 1992 for store 7424. Figured I'd mention this information to you.--[[User:TheOptopolis|TheOptopolis]] ([[User talk:TheOptopolis|talk]]) 19:13, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
: Thanks for finding that. I've fixed it now. --[[User:Reschultzed|Reschultzed]] ([[User talk:Reschultzed|talk]]) 05:42, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
== Kmart 3891 date ==
The store's opening date is actually on July 29, 1991. put the opening ceremony on August 1 on the store's notes. and it also has to be replaced 7424
: In my opinion, I still say the opening date is unclear at this point with the way the newspaper was worded, that the store, "opened on August 1st," and that the "customers will have an opportunity to shop at the new Kmart store on Dell Range Boulevard on Aug. 1." If it opened on the 29th, wouldn't the customers have had an opportunity to shop on the 29th? Wouldn't that have been clarified? There is the possibility that maybe the writer simply didn't clarify that information, but it's also possible the 2002 list is wrong. Personally, I feel like more evidence is needed to confirm one way or the other, evidence that likely isn't going to be easy to find... evidence that very well may exist somewhere but that is not as simple as grabbing a local newspaper article that shares about the grand opening or looking at that list from 2002.--[[User:TheOptopolis|TheOptopolis]] ([[User talk:TheOptopolis|talk]]) 00:01, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
:: All right, I've put it down as an estimate. Hopefully more information can be found. --[[User:Reschultzed|Reschultzed]] ([[User talk:Reschultzed|talk]]) 01:08, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
== Found another Sears store that doesn't appear to be listed (Fort Collins, CO) ==
I stumbled upon another [[Sears (225 South Meldrum Street, Fort Collins, Colorado)]] that I currently don't know the store number. Found photos of it ([https://fchc.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/ph/id/8029/rec/22 225sme66], [https://fchc.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/ph/id/8030/rec/23 225sme69]) and it's also listed as a Sears Roebuck and Co in the [https://fchc.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/cid/id/30835/rec/1 1966 Fort Collins CO directory], pg 288.
Figured I'd mention this as I'm sure you'd like to add it to your spreadsheet.--[[User:TheOptopolis|TheOptopolis]] ([[User talk:TheOptopolis|talk]]) 06:09, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
* I appreciate that, but catalog stores aren't included in the spreadsheet, at least not yet. There would be a lot of work to do to make that happen. Maybe someday I'll manage it. --[[User:Reschultzed|Reschultzed]] ([[User talk:Reschultzed|talk]]) 06:16, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
== Never had this issue happen on a template - ""Unknown" contains an extrinsic dash or other characters" ==
For some reason, I keep getting this error message on a new infobox I'm trying to create called [[Infobox Old Country Buffet|https://www.bluepageswiki.org/wiki/Infobox_Old_Country_Buffet]]. No idea why this error is here; besides changing the name to Old Country Buffet and the colors in the abovestyle element, it's literally a duplicate of another restaurant's infobox that doesn't have these error messages. Unfortunately, it seems that whatever is causing this error message is also preventing the infobox from being usable. The two spots that use the Date item don't appear to have any other characters besides the phrase "Date" so I'm confused why the error would even appear.--[[User:TheOptopolis|TheOptopolis]] ([[User talk:TheOptopolis|talk]]) 20:30, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
Solved. Someone moved the page to where it was supposed to be, idk why the "Template" part didn't end up in the title when I was creating the page (I always have included that word before). That should have been obvious to me lol, my mistake.--[[User:TheOptopolis|TheOptopolis]] ([[User talk:TheOptopolis|talk]]) 21:05, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
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