User talk:Reschultzed

Flooding

Hey, can you add the bot flag to your account until you are done with the automated edits? The edits been filling the global changes feed. Thanks. LakesideMiners (talk) 20:14, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for letting me know, I have now added the bot flag to my account. I will continue the automated edits now, so let me know if you have any more concerns. Reschultzed (talk) 21:26, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

Per request. About what Miners said. Although his account has the Bot flag it still appears in the recent changes to in the recent changes channel of the wikis in #Miraheze-feed on IRC. Don't worry, the failure of the Bot flag is a system error and not yours (it happened with my puppet account on my wiki). I will explain.

It seems that after giving the bot flag to an account, you should wait until an hour or more before doing a post-flag edit. This is so that the system will update and know the change of user permissions. What you should do is remove the Bot flag. After a few minutes or an hour or more, grant the Bot flag and wait another hour or more to make the edits you want to make. So I did it with the difference that they had a lapse of 12 or 24 hours (between the granting of the flag to the first post-flag edition).

I forgot, this bug only occurs when doing automatic or semi-automatic edits (with ReplaceText, AutoWikiBrowser, etc.). Editions do not appear in the normal use of the Bot flag (1 edition per minute for example)

I just want to make it clear that we don't want to pressure him or anything. There are some volunteers on the #Miraheze-feed channel who check recent changes for vandalism or other reasons and sometimes the automatic edits prevent edits from appearing because the RC bot doesn't read all of them. Sorry for the inconvenience and greetings. --Hispano76 (talk) 01:52, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Thank you. So, just to be clear, I will now remove the bot flag, wait at least an hour, add the bot flag again, wait at least an hour, and only then return to automated editing. If this isn't exactly right, or if anything else goes wrong, please let me know. Reschultzed (talk) 02:25, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

I have now followed these instructions and will start automated edits again. Please let me know ASAP if there continue to be problems – I really don't want to inconvenience anyone, especially on other wikis, with this setup process. Reschultzed (talk) 05:32, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Well, like you asked me to let you know. It still didn't work out and I think it's just AWB. It could be because it keeps the session in AutoWikibrowser at the time the flag is set.

I haven't tried it and I'm just saying it but I should log out of Autowikibrowser before setting the flag and wait a long enough time at least until editing. It probably worked for me because I waited at least 12 hours for other reasons and maybe in that time it would update itself. I'm sorry to take up your time and I apologize for the inconvenience. You'll decide.

Or the simplest, temporarily modify ManageWiki, so that only registered Users read the pages. First, giving the "Read" right to Users and removing the "Read" right to anonymous ones. This will prevent the wiki from appearing in the channel.

Greetings and sorry.--Hispano76 (talk) 23:06, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Thank you. I have just logged out of, restarted, and logged back into AWB and it now appears to explicitly recognize the bot flag in the bottom status bar (I don't think it was doing that before). I have also set reading pages as a right for users, but I don't see any option to remove it as a right for unregistered users. Please let me know if this has not resolved the problem. Reschultzed (talk) 00:21, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

Btw, I would recommend using a different account for bot edits, so there wouldn't be a need to scroll through all the automatic edits to see the manual ones - Monirec (talk) 07:50, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

The automatic edits shouldn't appear on Special:RecentChanges. Where are you seeing them? Reschultzed (talk) 07:56, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

I am not seeing any of the manual edits made by people with the bot flag (which is currently given to Dibbydib and you), so that's why I am disabling "Human (not bot)" filter. - Monirec (talk) 09:20, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

AutoWikiBrowser

I've noticed this wiki a while back and decided to contribute. Since this wiki mainly relies on automation, it'd be best to step up and use AutoWikiBrowser on this wiki. I'm no newbie - I do automation jobs for plenty of other wikis and am familiar with AutoWikiBrowser. However:

1. It'd be best to ask for permissions to use AutoWikiBrowser rather than edit articles with it out of the blue.
2. AutoWikiBrowser is not working on Miraheze wikis for me - don't get me wrong, it totally did earlier. Here's the main error message that comes up:

API returned the following error: 'The "login" module requires a POST request.'

so I'm not sure why it's running fine for you. I'll try using a different account and changing my password for that

Anyway, good work on the wiki! Dibbydib (talk) 08:26, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for letting me know. I think I had the same problem when I first started using AWB on here, but I can't remember at the moment how I got it working. I'll see if I can find it again. As you can see in the discussion above, I did discuss large-scale automation with Miraheze staff members, and while I admit I should've asked them before starting, they seem to be satisfied with my approach now. If you're asking to use AWB on this wiki, I'd be happy to help you out and give you the necessary permissions, but I'd like to know more about what you'd like to do first. Good luck! --Reschultzed (talk) 17:04, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

The main project I have in mind is to fill up redlinks. This includes adding categories and lists for common locations (such as Edmonds, Washington) in places, as well as any other fixes I stumble across. Dibbydib (talk) 01:17, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

That's definitely a good idea. I've made a few small changes to the example you created, which I would ask you to consider using in the future. First of all, any Bluepages article which has the same title and subject as a Wikipedia article should have the Summary template at the top, as a reminder not to duplicate that site's existing labor. Secondly, I think what you're trying to do with the list of locations might be better served by the category system, so I've added some categories to demonstrate what that should look like. Let me know any of your thoughts or suggestions, and let me know if you'd like me to get started on giving your account bot permissions. Thanks, Reschultzed (talk) 01:56, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

Visual Editor

Can you enable visual editor for the wiki? I know how to use the current one but the text can become hard to read real quick. --Monirec (talk) 19:30, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

Done, thank you. --Reschultzed (talk) 19:33, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

That was quick, I'll check if it works later. Thanks!--Monirec (talk) 19:38, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

Route proposal

On User:Monirec/Sandbox i created hypothetical color coding for street's route sections, can you check it out? --Monirec (talk) 13:22, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

It's an interesting concept. In the future, I'd like to be able to pull the route information from OpenStreetMap, so maybe the color scheme could be drawn from that site as well. I would definitely encourage you to keep experimenting with this. --Reschultzed (talk) 17:26, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

ImportSpreadsheet

Heyo Reschultzed, how you import spreadsheets to add articles? I'm trying to do it to a different wiki but am having some issues, and you seemed like the guy to call. I'm trying to use the "Special:ImportSpreadsheet" function, which returns an error message of "You must have the PHPExcel library installed to run this page.". I took it to phab and it looks like it's a deperacation issue with the PHPExcel software, which needs to change to PhpSpreadsheet.

It seems to work here, so, how did you do it? Dibbydib (talk) 08:47, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

Hi Dibbydib, I use AutoWikiBrowser with the CSV Loader plugin to import articles. Hope this helps, Reschultzed (talk) 17:58, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

Template duplicate?

Did you duplicate the Template:OpenStreetMap with Template:OSM? - Monirec (talk) 10:06, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi Monirec, yes. I created Template:OSM as an alternative because I feel like such a commonly-used template should generally have a short name, as well as to add a Wikipedia link to OpenStreetMap . Feel free to do whatever you want with Template:OpenStreetMap. --Reschultzed (talk) 03:05, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Well, then if you want a short name Template:OSM could be a redirect to Template:OpenStreetMap, and the link to Wikipedia could be added - Monirec (talk) 11:03, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Good idea. Done. Thank you. --Reschultzed (talk) 17:01, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Bot help

Hi Reschultzed, I am an admin on the Linguapedia wiki who would like to generate some articles from a few of my spreadsheets. I'm looking at ultimately creating maybe 10,000 new articles, but can start off with maybe 50 to test things out.

How do you make a bot that generates articles from spreadsheets? Lingua (talk) 19:00, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

Hi Lingua, I use AutoWikiBrowser with the CSVLoader plugin to create and update articles. I think the walkthroughs at those two links should be clear enough to help you get started, but I'd be happy to provide help if needed. Thanks, Reschultzed (talk) 19:08, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

Spreadsheets

I wonder, how are spreadsheets for imports are made? Talking specifically about copying from the company's website. - Monirec (talk) 13:22, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

I personally tend to use Octoparse for scraping data from an official website, and then Google Sheets is where I shape that raw data into something usable, particularly by unabbreviating addresses. –Reschultzed (talk) 17:59, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Local Language?

Hi. I'm really interested with this idea (Bluepages). Back then, i had discussion on my local OpenStreetMap community, to build a wiki, to store details and history about a certain places. Their responses are generally positive. Some of us even start doing this alone, by using wordpress platform, to write about detailed history of each skyscrapers in Indonesia (you can see it here : https://www.setiapgedung.web.id/). As for me, i start doing it on Wikipedia, my own github pages, my own wordpress and my own Miraheze instance, sporadically.

Let's say, i want to move all of my project here at Bluepages. The problem is, can we keep it using our native languages? Our primary audiences are the locals anyway. Rtnf2 (talk) 09:23, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

I think that would be a great idea. Right now, languages other than English have their own namespaces (for example, RU:Dodo Pizza East Memphis-1 is in Russian). So you could add the articles here prefixed with ID: or something similar. If there's enough interest, maybe other language versions of Bluepages will split off into their own wikis like on Wikipedia, so that English wouldn't be the default anymore. My ability to watch new edits and moderate content in a language I don't speak will be limited, but I'd be happy to work with you more on this! Reschultzed (talk) 02:45, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

Here is a proposal from me : allow article about places from other country (outside anglophone country) be written in the main namespace, in their own native language . The goal is to make it easier for local contributor to link between places. Maybe, it will be also indexed better by Google.

Also, introducing non-anglophone country's places here led to a new problem : should we translate an article about one place to several languages, just like wikipedia did before? (as for now, countless en wiki article is being re-translated to countless local language wiki). My current assumption is : we dont need to do that. If a place is not internationally-notable, people from another country maybe dont really interested with that place. (well, if a place is internationally notable, it probably deserves a Wikipedia article, not here (?)). If someone really interested with certain local foreign location, they can ask for translation in the talk pages, so they can get contact with the local contributors. Anyway, this problem is still an open question to me. Maybe you have another idea?

Actually, it is probably easier for me to just ask a new miraheze wiki instance and build this same exact wiki like Bluepage for my local community. But, since we have the same exact vision, maybe we can unite to make bluepages (and our shared vision in general) to get more recognition.

Regarding Indonesian-language content moderation, i can help you moderate it.

My current short-term plan is :

1. Understanding the definition of "notable" place in Indonesian Wikipedia. One of the biggest difference between Bluepages and Wikipedia is (as my understanding), there is no concept of notability in Bluepages. After that, i can start migrating anything deemed "non-notable" from Wikipedia to Bluepage (of course with Indonesian Wikipedia's sysops approval). Whenever a new Indonesian Wikipedia user added a new "non-notable place" there, i can ask the sysops to delete it, and tell them to post it on Bluepages instead. We (Indonesian Wikipedia Community) actually have a lengthy discussion about this (to migrate anything non-notable to their own separate wiki) and the consensus is : they agreed to migrate it.
2. Promoting this idea to Indonesian OpenStreetMap community. I have pitched this idea several weeks ago. I think the response is quite positive. But the problem back then is, we dont have the actual platform to do it. Bluepages, i think, is the exact platform that we need.

Rtnf2 (talk) 07:44, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

A problem I see with writing in a native/primary languague of a country in the main namespace are countries where mutliple languagues are widely used . In Kazakhstan, Russian is often used alongside Kazakh, and there are plenty of other languagues used aswell. In a country with 100+ ethnicities people might want to read articles about their city/village in their preferred languague :P. Interestingly, this actually became a problem in OpenStreetMap where Russian was used to name cities and regions instead of Kazakh, despite the latter being way more fitting. - Monirec (talk) 10:04, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

Local namespace is fine, as long as it provided the namespace-internal linking functionality. By using this, every wikilink that is made inside a namespace will not be leaked back to the main namespace. I'm trying to find the solution by asking on the Miraheze Community Noticeboard and Mediawiki Support Desk. Rtnf2 (talk) 02:18, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

It's a bit unconventional in terms of usage of interwiki; however, you could define a separate prefix for each namespace on the same wiki, like prefixA would be defined locally in Special:Interwiki as https://www.bluepages.org/wiki/NamespaceA:$1, where NamespaceA is the namespace prefix for that namespace. That way, you'd link to [[prefixA:page name|optional displayed text]]. Could something like that work? Dmehus (talk) 02:29, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Talk

Hi,I wanted to talk to you about bots, I need your help.Since this is a person talk so how can I talk to you personally Gani (talk) 03:46, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

Hi, Gani. You can talk to me right here on this page, or if you'd like to talk more personally, you can email me by following this link: Special:EmailUser/Reschultzed. I hope this helps. Thanks, Reschultzed (talk) 06:13, 30 June 2021 (UTC)